tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post955851005348594888..comments2024-01-25T13:46:11.967-06:00Comments on The Bronze Blog: The Fundie MentalityRyan Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14750814560493466382noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-54267927245239449762008-10-06T00:27:00.000-05:002008-10-06T00:27:00.000-05:00Huh. TV Tropes Entry: "Morality Chain""Truthiness ...Huh. TV Tropes Entry: "<A HREF="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityChain" REL="nofollow">Morality Chain</A>"<BR/><BR/>"Truthiness in Television. Religious fundamentalists often make this claim about themselves, saying that their faith is the only thing keeping them from going on an Unstoppable Rage. This troper frankly finds that notion to be Nightmare Fuel Unleaded.<BR/><BR/> * Some also claim it for humanity at large, despite evidence to the contrary. This has the effect of making them look like <A HREF="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDarkKnight" REL="nofollow">Joker-level</A> misanthropes."Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-29755403255205706892008-10-02T11:39:00.000-05:002008-10-02T11:39:00.000-05:00I laid out a new comment policy, and decided to cl...I laid out a new comment policy, and decided to clear the ban list of its one member.<BR/><BR/>He's probably too sore from his continuous beatings to ever come back, though. The fact that he sank into silly grade school 'UR GAY!' crap gives that strong impression.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-88095126218445878792008-10-02T11:24:00.000-05:002008-10-02T11:24:00.000-05:00Recently unbanned?Did I miss something?Recently unbanned?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Did I miss something?Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-8346333908118118552008-10-02T09:02:00.000-05:002008-10-02T09:02:00.000-05:00That pretty much sums up my opinions.Except I'd po...That pretty much sums up my opinions.<BR/><BR/>Except I'd point out that those who say "the bible is all that keeps me, and everyone else, from decending into moral decay" are likely not nearly as evil as they claim. Perhaps a limited minority are actually that anti-social, but I get the impression that they wouldn't live up to their own ideals because they want good to be good too, even if they have a warped view of it.<BR/><BR/>Aside from that, regarding evolution and the whole "it teaches we should beat up those weaker than us and take their stuff", yes it's not accurate, but that's the least of my issues with that statement. My biggest problem is that they think we look to evolution as a source of morality. At most, it's an explanation of our moral sense, but not a prescription for how we SHOULD behave.<BR/><BR/>It's actually one of the biggest things that bug me. It's been true of a LOT of science. General and special relativity, for example, had critics saying that it suggests that morality is entirely "relative", which is more of an indication that they never bothered to read up on what the theory is.<BR/><BR/>The think about science is it truly is amoral, which is to say the process has absolutely nothing to do with morality. That's not to say scientists are totally amoral, there are ethical concerns about any scientific endevor, like medical studies. No one does "faux surgery" because it's unethical, not because it wouldn't work in a double blind test of a surgical procedure.<BR/><BR/>The problem is their own world view is one where they look at every bit of "historical" information in their holy book as having a moral lesson. "What can we apply to our lives from the story of Job?" Then they assume that scientists "must do the same thing", and get all their moral "okays" from what they study. Not so.<BR/><BR/>The best analogy I can come up with is that arguing that an evolutionist takes their moral stance from evolution is like arguing that a historian takes their moral stance from accepting the reality of the holocaust. No one suggests that accepting the holocaust happened is the same as saying we should draw our morality from it. If anything, if one should take something from the holocaust it's just how much harm such a thing can do to so many people.<BR/><BR/>Evolution is just the facts of how we came to be, it's NOT a system of morality or a suggestion of how we "should" live. I'm with Richard Dawkins in that I may love the theory as a beautiful explanation, but morally I'd be disgusted at anyone actually "applying" it to their lives, and I'm one to say that evolution, while it got us here, is a fundamentally mindless process and we can do better. Creatures can and do evolve into dead ends resulting in extinction. It does in fact result in a struggle for a lot of creatures, and really genetic engineering would be FAR better than somehow trying to "accelerate" survival of the fittest in our species.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-36508583991722126092008-10-01T23:05:00.000-05:002008-10-01T23:05:00.000-05:00If the Left Behind series is any indication, your ...If the <I>Left Behind</I> series is any indication, your thesis is probably fairly accurate. I recommend that you read <A HREF="http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/index.html" REL="nofollow">this dissection</A> of the first book. I suspect that reading the actual book would induce you to put your own eyes out.Rhoadanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02375561352677522227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-91211874414699865642008-10-01T21:57:00.000-05:002008-10-01T21:57:00.000-05:00Largely I've seen it with unconstitutional display...Largely I've seen it with unconstitutional displays of religion in government. Can't recall specific instances with other evils right now, but I don't think it'll be long before I see another.<BR/><BR/>Key thing to look for: They blame our calling them out on us being "offended" by them tearing down civilization and rule of law.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-28215351767951116172008-10-01T21:52:00.000-05:002008-10-01T21:52:00.000-05:00I just saw a snippet of that, but it did convince ...I just saw a snippet of that, but it did convince me of one thing: someday, somehow, VFX will eat me in my sleep.<BR/><BR/>With shaky camera work.<BR/><BR/>I admit I haven't quite been keeping up, and my memory's a bit fuzzy...<BR/><BR/>Have people seriously tried to recast objections to illegal, unethical, unconstitutional, or-cetera behavior as being on grounds of "political correctness"?<BR/><BR/>What, like "I was just telling him that he didn't deserve to live. Why are you forcing me to censor myself?"? (My mind won't quite let me imagine anything worse.)MWchasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195851187187771113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-35049833452555427262008-10-01T21:12:00.000-05:002008-10-01T21:12:00.000-05:00What's scary is that I can imagine one like VFX do...What's scary is that I can imagine one like VFX donning that Joker makeup and doing some similar nastiness like in the movie.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-53443367967708047662008-10-01T21:05:00.000-05:002008-10-01T21:05:00.000-05:00...is it scary that this gives me ideas for debate......is it scary that this gives me ideas for debate?King of Ferretshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07893294460892136598noreply@blogger.com