tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post116347602615392104..comments2024-01-25T13:46:11.967-06:00Comments on The Bronze Blog: Okay, I've Vented. Now I Need a Cyber-Hug.Ryan Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14750814560493466382noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164226881418294832006-11-22T14:21:00.000-06:002006-11-22T14:21:00.000-06:00It may meet some technical definitions floating ou...It may meet some technical definitions floating out there, but in terms of flavor, his bitterness of character is way off the Christianity of my youth, which featured a great deal of the good side of humanity.<BR/><BR/>I still retain that, and recognize that anyone can have it, regardless of religious beliefs. Humans are social creatures. Love is written into our DNA.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164212151258765782006-11-22T10:15:00.000-06:002006-11-22T10:15:00.000-06:00And people wondered why I considered WoMI's brand ...<I>And people wondered why I considered WoMI's brand of Christianity to be a form of diabolism at the time I left the church.</I><BR/><BR/>His "brand of Christianity" is not Christianity at all. I do hope that you have at least been able to see that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164204358874135522006-11-22T08:05:00.000-06:002006-11-22T08:05:00.000-06:00And people wondered why I considered WoMI's brand ...And people wondered why I considered WoMI's brand of Christianity to be a form of diabolism at the time I left the church.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164200887923622092006-11-22T07:08:00.000-06:002006-11-22T07:08:00.000-06:00If you think I hate BD, you have no idea. If I wer...<I>If you think I hate BD, you have no idea. If I were do detested of the BD's kind I certainly would not left my family and come Sin-City to try to win them to Christ.</I><BR/><BR/>I was, at one point, going to make a post about this but refrained from lack of evidence. Now I have it.<BR/><BR/>See, WoMI is one of those completely ignorant Christians who hates all he sees as not Christian with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. His ire and fury, his shouting of lies and fabrications, his obvious disgust at who and what he seems to think BD is makes this painfully obvious. He, however, like many Christians like him, thinks that his hatred, when harnessed for "righteous" purposes, like attacking others' beliefs or lifestyles, and attempting to tell them how to live their lives, is somehow transmuted into love.<BR/><BR/>It's entirely possible, though, that that though process doesn't take place at all. He might just be living in a state of complete cognitive disonnance: "This all-consuming fire that I feel, this thing that drives me to do what I do, must be love, because it is of the Lord."<BR/><BR/>Either way, he's a pretty worthless individual, and BD had it dead on:<BR/><BR/><I>"Love is hate!"</I>Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06661441668625677468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164160382241503812006-11-21T19:53:00.000-06:002006-11-21T19:53:00.000-06:00Ok, since arguing specific scripture with Weapon i...Ok, since arguing specific scripture with Weapon isn't going to work since he just overlooks the bits he doesn't like, I've got a few basic questions for him.<BR/><BR/>1: Is God all knowing?<BR/><BR/>2: Is God all powerful?<BR/><BR/>Both of these are a yes, as I understand your theology but I want to avoid making assumptions. After you've answered those questions I may be able to give you better argument as to my view on the matter of your god. (which appears to coincide somewhat with Bronze Dog's)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164158670181038112006-11-21T19:24:00.000-06:002006-11-21T19:24:00.000-06:00Half of the stuff you have attributed to Bronzedog...<I>Half of the stuff you have attributed to Bronzedog and his worldview are assumptions you have made based on flawed information and have nothing at all to do with the conversation at hand.</I><BR/><BR/>Not to overly nitpick, but I'd say it's more around the vicinity of "none."<BR/><BR/>To summarize the whole thing with my cat:<BR/><BR/>Weapon: "Bronze Dog loves his cat! That means he's one of those insane PETA nuts who believes animals are superior to mankind like Jack Chick told me about!"<BR/><BR/>Or how about this:<BR/><BR/>Weapon: "Bronze Dog believes in evolution, is worried his cat might have a genetic problem, so I'm going to accuse him of being nearly the opposite of an evolutionist: A eugenicist!"<BR/><BR/>I don't think Weapon's really a theist: I think he's a solipcist. Would explain why he paints the entire universe a uniform black.<BR/><BR/><I>And I said before, BD has heard more of the love of God (though he dismisses it) from my posts then from any of yours.</I><BR/><BR/>The world as Weapon apparently sees it:<BR/><BR/>"Black is white!"<BR/>"Up is down!"<BR/>"Proscriptive is descriptive!"<BR/>"Eugenics is evolution!"<BR/>"Sorcery is naturalism!"<BR/>"Cause is acausal!"<BR/>"Objective is subjective!"<BR/>"Love is hate!"<BR/>"Meaning is nihilism!"<BR/>"Evil is good!"<BR/>"Ignorance is strength!"<BR/><BR/>Weapon, you're in desperate need of medication. Your "God" matches every description I've ever heard of Satan. Don't listen to the voices.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164158010234139182006-11-21T19:13:00.000-06:002006-11-21T19:13:00.000-06:00As usual you ignore the versus presented to you an...As usual you ignore the versus presented to you and create a God of your own fabrication.<BR/><BR/>If you think I hate BD, you have no idea. If I were do detested of the BD's kind I certainly would not left my family and come Sin-City to try to win them to Christ.<BR/><BR/>And I said before, BD has heard more of the love of God (though he dismisses it) from my posts then from any of yours.<BR/><BR/>And judging from the recent comments you made at your blog, it seems that they are having more of an influence to you than you are to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164149330647089312006-11-21T16:48:00.000-06:002006-11-21T16:48:00.000-06:00This is getting ridiculous. No, it's been ridiculo...This is getting ridiculous. No, it's been ridiculous for awhile now.<BR/><BR/>Proverbs 10:12<BR/>Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.<BR/><BR/>Romans 13:8<BR/>Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.<BR/><BR/>And the definition of love?<BR/><BR/>From 1 Cor 13:<BR/><BR/>Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. <B>It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered</B>, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.<BR/><BR/>You're right about one thing: the Bible does say that the fool says in his heart that there is no God.<BR/><BR/>But how foolish (not to mention childish) are you being by <I>making up</I> your own version of events to attack. Half of the stuff you have attributed to Bronzedog and his worldview are assumptions you have made based on flawed information and have nothing at all to do with the conversation at hand. I can <I>guarantee</I> you that Jesus never resorted to making up stuff just so he could condemn and stir up strife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164147313259730082006-11-21T16:15:00.000-06:002006-11-21T16:15:00.000-06:00Of course, Amanda. I forgot that your version of ...Of course, Amanda. I forgot that your version of love is holding hands with the ungodly and singing "kumbaya."<BR/><BR/>Act like Christ?<BR/><BR/>1. Should I call him a child of the devil like Jesus called some in his day. (John 8:44)<BR/><BR/>2. Should I call him a viper as John the Baptist referred to some (Matthew 3:7). Apparently Jesus did not mind since he was in the midst of them. <BR/><BR/>3. Should I call him a fool, like the word of God calls those who say there is no God? (Psalm 14:1)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Apparently you have no idea of what Jesus was like. That's why you have not been able to answer the versus I've been posting on your blog but instead conveniently ignore them. When your comments are compared to the Word of God, they will always come short.<BR/><BR/>The truth is that Jesus always confronted sin. He forgave them, but he confronted them. BTW, it seems that I have speak more of the love of God than you. I do not know what you are trying to do here, but it is certainly not trying to preach the Gospel.<BR/><BR/><B>2 Corinthians 5:11</B><BR/><B>Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164140404683246702006-11-21T14:20:00.000-06:002006-11-21T14:20:00.000-06:00Wow. I had to stop reading all of these comments b...Wow. I had to stop reading all of these comments before the end. <BR/><BR/>WOMI: Nothing you have said here is remotely honoring to God. If you want to honor God, reflect Christ, not the Pharisees. "Christian" means "Little Christ" or "Like Christ." You haven't exhibited any of those qualities on any comment thread that I've seen. Christ would never make the snide and downright mean comments that you've made. Even when Christ was angry it was righteous anger. You seem out to tear into anyone whose opinion is different than yours. And come on...making those comments about someone's pet? That's downright <I>mean</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164135247923328062006-11-21T12:54:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:54:00.000-06:00Have you ever had sex outside of marriage?No.<I>Have you ever had sex outside of marriage?</I><BR/><BR/>No.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164135153753866882006-11-21T12:52:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:52:00.000-06:00Honestly, its not all that serious. Hollywood make...<I>Honestly, its not all that serious. Hollywood makes plenty of jokes against animals and I do not here you protesting against them.</I><BR/><BR/>Ever heard of context?<BR/><BR/><I>Do you not think its quite hypocritical thay you and your like makes fun of my God (viz Jesus) and you cry over me making fun of your cat?</I><BR/><BR/>No. Because the context of those jokes is different.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and just to note: I haven't been making fun of God or Jesus during our "conversations": I've been making fun of the fallacies you employ.<BR/><BR/><I>The difference between your jest and mine is that yours are lies generated by a fanatical hatred towards God. My jest is common practice by many people, and it is not generated by hatred towards animals as I have pets of mine own.</I><BR/><BR/>Stop making stuff up.<BR/><BR/><I>It is a historical fact that Jesus existed and that he died via crucifixion. Whether or not you are willing to accept that he died for you then it is your choice to make.</I><BR/><BR/>Forensic evidence?<BR/><BR/><I>It would be like the judge paying the penalty for your crime. You may call this schizophrenic because you do not want to think of the idea that he died for you, but to many this is the greatest act of love.</I><BR/><BR/>I fail to see the love involved. He made up arbitrary malicious rules, and went through a bizarre stunt that didn't cost him anything except a minor inconvenience in order to change them into a different set of malicious rules.<BR/><BR/>Comment moderation has been turned on. I think everyone with an ounce of civility can guess why.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134825037505012006-11-21T12:47:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:47:00.000-06:00What evidence do you have that I'm a fornicator?Ha...<I>What evidence do you have that I'm a fornicator?</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Have you ever had sex outside of marriage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134760057484522006-11-21T12:46:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:46:00.000-06:002. Just what sort of bizarre act was that? Sacrifi...<I>2. Just what sort of bizarre act was that? Sacrifices himself to himself in order to learn how to forgive? Strikes me as schizophrenic."</I><BR/><BR/>It would be like the judge paying the penalty for your crime. You may call this schizophrenic because you do not want to think of the idea that he died for you, but to many this is the greatest act of love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134646877300302006-11-21T12:44:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:44:00.000-06:001. Prove that he has.It is a historical fact that ...<I>1. Prove that he has.</I><BR/><BR/>It is a historical fact that Jesus existed and that he died via crucifixion. Whether or not you are willing to accept that he died for you then it is your choice to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134498598269622006-11-21T12:41:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:41:00.000-06:00correction...My jest is based on common practice ...correction...<BR/><BR/><BR/>My jest is <B> based</B> on common practice by many people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134419953799502006-11-21T12:40:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:40:00.000-06:00But simply, your behavior has been uncivilized. Ho...<I>But simply, your behavior has been uncivilized. How's that?You made an offensive joke apparently for the specific purpose of agitating me. You wanted me to feel pain because it would cause you pleasure.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Honestly, its not all that serious. Hollywood makes plenty of jokes against animals and I do not here you protesting against them.<BR/><BR/>Do you not think its quite hypocritical thay you and your like makes fun of my God (viz Jesus) and you cry over me making fun of your cat?<BR/><BR/>The difference between your jest and mine is that yours are lies generated by a fanatical hatred towards God. My jest is common practice by many people, and it is not generated by hatred towards animals as I have pets of mine own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134219700322052006-11-21T12:36:00.001-06:002006-11-21T12:36:00.001-06:00You are right. But according to your worldview it ...<I>You are right. But according to your worldview it is.</I><BR/><BR/>More making stuff up.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134161083670892006-11-21T12:36:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:36:00.000-06:00Nice try. But that was not the point I made. The p...<I>Nice try. But that was not the point I made. The point I made is that you have no objective moral standard. That's why you as a fornicator, do not mind fornicating. Your moral standard is relative to your whims.</I><BR/><BR/>Game. Set. Match. Caught in your lie right there.<BR/><BR/>What evidence do you have that I'm a fornicator?<BR/><BR/>You couldn't <B>possibly</B> be making that up in an attempt to poison the well, so to speak, could you?Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134142293603832006-11-21T12:35:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:35:00.000-06:00You do realize that there are alternate definition...<I>You do realize that there are alternate definitions in dictionaries, don't you? What's next? Are you going to say that only the first definition counts? Imagine that ruins all of set theory in mathematics.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, but unlike you, I mean what I say and say what I mean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134060454693392006-11-21T12:34:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:34:00.000-06:00Love and justice are not relative.You are right. ...<I>Love and justice are not relative.</I><BR/><BR/>You are right. But according to your worldview it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134009839726592006-11-21T12:33:00.001-06:002006-11-21T12:33:00.001-06:00So, what makes the moral standard I have (love, ju...<I>So, what makes the moral standard I have (love, justice, yadda, yadda) inferior to yours? </I><BR/><BR/>Nice try. But that was not the point I made. The point I made is that you have no objective moral standard. That's why you as a fornicator, do not mind fornicating. Your moral standard is relative to your whims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164134002339270112006-11-21T12:33:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:33:00.000-06:00Again you are imploying your own relative moral st...<I>Again you are imploying your own relative moral standards. I make fun of eating my rabbit at times as well.</I><BR/><BR/>Love and justice are not relative.<BR/><BR/><I>For a guy that loves the semantics game you sure have no idea of what has been said.<BR/><BR/>No semantics game. The words say what they mean and mean what they say.<BR/><BR/>Nice try.</I><BR/><BR/>You do realize that there are alternate definitions in dictionaries, don't you? What's next? Are you going to say that only the first definition counts? Imagine that ruins all of set theory in mathematics.<BR/><BR/>But simply, your behavior has been uncivilized. How's that?<BR/><BR/>You made an offensive joke apparently for the specific purpose of agitating me. You wanted me to feel pain because it would cause you pleasure.<BR/><BR/><I>Apparently you have a hard time differentiating between killing murder.</I><BR/><BR/>So, it's okay to kill babies?<BR/><BR/><I>I assume that you also believe that our American troops are murderers as well.</I><BR/><BR/>Nice of you to make stuff up.<BR/><BR/>Have you been living life in a box filled only with cardboard cut-outs of people?<BR/><BR/><I>The fact is that if God were a murderer he definitely would have not died on the cross for you.</I><BR/><BR/>1. Prove that he has.<BR/><BR/>2. Just what sort of bizarre act was that? Sacrifices himself to himself in order to learn how to forgive? Strikes me as schizophrenic.<BR/><BR/><I>Well, I do not know where you see him commanding rape, but for someone who has a fanatical hatred towards God, it is not surprising that you would make up lies about him.</I><BR/><BR/>I know a euphemism when I see one. The men get to keep the virgin women for themselves? If rape isn't implied there, it at least implies slavery.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and what would you call that thing he did with Mary?<BR/><BR/><I>According to your hermeneutic you are liable for murder too every time you eat chicken.</I><BR/><BR/>Nice of you to keep making stuff up.Bronze Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938257296504189967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164133644629515232006-11-21T12:27:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:27:00.000-06:00Sounds like murder and rape to me. He may not have...<I>Sounds like murder and rape to me. He may not have done all of those acts himself, but commanding them is just as bad.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I do not know where you see him commanding rape, but for someone who has a fanatical hatred towards God, it is not surprising that you would make up lies about him.<BR/><BR/>According to your hermeneutic you are liable for murder too every time you eat chicken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13030925.post-1164133389952845672006-11-21T12:23:00.000-06:002006-11-21T12:23:00.000-06:00The fact is that if God were a murderer he definit...The fact is that if God were a murderer he definitely would have not died on the cross for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com