Tuesday, September 12, 2006

They Waste Their Time So You Won't Have To

Seems that comment I quoted the other day came from another source: Here. It's quite good. Pretty much debunks 9/11 CTs just by using common sense and some quick hankerchief math.

No need to get into things like what temperatures steel weakens (NOT melts, you straw men factories over at Loose Change) at, and the dB level of explosives.

My favorite bit is some not-unreasonable psychobabble near the end.
And that, is the conspiracy mindset.

It's not a belief in corrupt leaders. Hell, we all believe in corrupt leaders. It's a belief in a corrupt everybody. It's driving around in a world where every single person you see out of your windshield is utterly bloodthirsty and amoral, all except for you and a few, brave friends. What could make you feel more important than that?

You can see the attraction right away. Most people, to feel special, have to actually do something special. But why not do what these guys do, and just make the rest of the world out to be wretched? Hell, once we've painted everyone else as mindless or murderous, all we have to do to feel superior to them is roll out of bed.

Remember what I said earlier about Dylan Avery and how it was probably just a desire for fame that drove him to do all this? Look at the parallel here. At the heart of all this is that basic human need to feel special somehow, twisted in the most warped and corrosive way imaginable.

In conclusion, the 9/11 Conspiracy Guys aren't evil and they aren't liars. They're merely filling a basic human need, using their imaginations and paranoia to elevate themselves to a level the real world will never elevate them to. Also, they're retarded.
Bear in mind that most of this analysis applies equally to all large conspiracies: Sooner or later, an attempted large conspiracy will bump into someone who can't be paid off, and with the wonder of the information age, it's awfully hard to silence someone.

Edited to fix quote. And to add: I'm tired of being called a government-trusting sheeple AND a distrustful cynic by woos. If anything, these nuts are the ultimate cynics.

6 comments:

bourgeois_rage said...

In conclusion, the 9/11 Conspiracy Guys aren't evil and they aren't liars. They're merely filling a basic human need, using their imaginations and paranoia to elevate themselves to a level the real world will never elevate them to. Also, they're retarded.

Hahaha!

Seriously though, these guys have been debunked so often and thoroughly they have to know that they are wrong. They are just fooling themselves, and their following, equally in denial.

MichaelBains said...

B_R had about the same reaction I did.

Great post, Dog! It really makes clear why CTs are gonna be with us for the long haul.

Infophile said...

Seriously though, these guys have been debunked so often and thoroughly they have to know that they are wrong. They are just fooling themselves, and their following, equally in denial.

No no, all the debunking is part of the conspiracy. Obviously it goes all the way out to internet skeptics, who are being paid to come up with good arguments against the conspiracy theory.

By the way, if you're reading this Bush (which I know you are), my check still hasn't arrived. Bet you wished you sent it before I revealed this part of the plan, eh?

*gets shot, head falls over and luckily presses the ENTER key*

Francois Tremblay said...

Like most "skeptics", you are government-trusting sheeple. No biggie, most people are anyway.

Joshua said...

I shouldn't troll-bait, but whatever...

No, like most skeptics, we're evidence-trusting. We also have trust in physics and materials science and all that shit. All of which just happen to agree with the idea that planes flown by terrorists crashed in the World Trade Center towers, causing them to collapse.

If the evidence coincides with the US government's official line on this, then so be it. Other times, it doesn't, and any skeptic here will point out when that is the case. Like on global climate change, just for one quickie example.

But you clearly prefer to believe that everyone else is an idiot, because that's the only way you have to prop up your own self-esteem. Whatever gets you to bed at night, man.

bourgeois_rage said...

Francois appears to really despise the government. Link What's that? Government employees should join the Nazi party?

You claim to be objective, but then immediately throw out anything the government has to say. That sounds subjective to me. In the face of all the evidence opposed to the conspiracy theory, you distrust the government so much that you believe the loose changers. Interesting.