Thursday, January 15, 2009

Just What the Hell Does "Transcendent" Mean?

Well, had a guy show up by the name of "MrFreeThinker," though he certainly doesn't seem to fit with what most people would think of from that title. Normally, I'd just talk about this within the comment thread, but lately, I've felt the need to make main posts about a lot of pet peeves about religion, fundies, and so forth. So, here I go.

What the hell does "transcendent" mean? What is it about a "transcendent mind" that gives it authority on matters of morality? I don't see it. It's probably for the same reason I don't see why priests and the crop of people who call themselves theologists would be experts on gods that might exist. I see no rhyme or reason to all of that.

Near as I can tell, "transcendent" is used something like this: The deity isn't bound by any rules, so he can randomly make up morality that we can't understand. From there, it's not a far leap for any fundie to randomly claim that his deity told him to perform an atrocity, and no amount of "mere mortal" logic can convince him what he's doing is wrong. The arbitrary whims of a shadow of a vapor become more important than questions like "who will this help?" and "who will this hurt?"

8 comments:

Infophile said...

I think you might have forgotten to make this post a Doggerel. ;P

Dunc said...

"MrFreeThinker," though he certainly doesn't seem to fit with what most people would think of from that title

Have you looked at his "blog"? His whole schtick is an amazingly lame strawman parody of how he perceives atheists and sceptics.

TBH, I think "transcendent" is just a ten-dollar synonym for "magic" in this case.

Bronze Dog said...

I've got #132 "Transcendent" already referenced. I might update that one if I encounter some new brand of stupidity.

Bronze Dog said...

Dunc: TBH, I think "transcendent" is just a ten-dollar synonym for "magic" in this case.

Yeah. I bet if he comes back, his argument's going to be something like, "Well God's authority is arbitrary, but it's magically arbitrary, so that's a good thing."

For his next trick, he'll probably try to argue that burning down someone's home with a burning hands spell isn't arson, so it's okay.

Dark Jaguar said...

It's one of those questions I had a long time ago myself: if a diety decides to miraculously lead your team to victory in some game, isn't that cheating?

Bourgeois_Rage said...

Transcendent - I don't know, but I won't admit that I don't know so it must be Transcendent.

Bronze Dog said...

Poked a blog post over at his place for a bit of fun, and pretty much openly challenged him. I hope he decides to do more than a hit and run. I have a feeling he's going to thrash about in very amusing ways.

sunnyskeptic said...

I absolutely hate when people say 'I'm a freethinker, too!'. You either are or you aren't... Almost all of the ones I have encountered are total fundagelicals. They are transcendent in their stupidity.