Wednesday, January 17, 2007

The 9/11 Twoofer Credo

Brought to you by Orphia Nay of the JREF forums. You may recall the Woo-Woo Credo.

Some favorites:

Fight strawmen valiantly. Repeatedly state that 9/11 was not caused by “Arabs in caves”, and that burning jet fuel alone did not bring down the buildings. Accuse your opponents of being George Bush-lovers, and dismiss their evidence accordingly.

Use one myth to support another myth.
“They were going to create a false-flag operation (Northwoods) in the Sixties therefore 9/11 was an inside job”.
“Oswald didn’t kill Kennedy therefore 9/11 was an inside job”.
“9/11 was an inside job therefore anyone who disagrees with me is a disinformation agent”.
“The “New World Order” is a group of shadowy masterminds who control every government and fake every world event, therefore 9/11 was a false-flag psy-op.”
"The Holocaust did not happen so 9/11 was an inside job." "The hijackers were cokeheads and Osama was mortally ill therefore the US gubmint orchestrated 9/11".

27 comments:

Clu said...

Hi... this is completely of topic but I just tought I'd say hi and to ask you who this Weapon of mass 'Instruction' is. The reason is that I recently read a 100+ comment 'dialogue' between you guys and he seemed completely out of his mind... I gather that he's an ID-fanatic but you seem to have more experience with him than just that time...

By the way I've read some of your posts and I find them to be really amusing... good job

Bronze Dog said...

I skimmed a few comments (and a LOT of skeptical rebuttals) from who I presume to be him (Yamil Luciano or whatever he used in the first post) beforehand, but aside from that, nothing much.

If I come across as experienced, it's probably because he's a cookie-cutter Cretinist, except he seems to come from big brother's "special" cookie batter, if you know what I mean.

But that's enough of a derail. I don't want to reinforce Weapon's delusion that this blog is about him.

Clu said...

Ta' man... Keep up the good work...

Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

Hi... this is completely of topic but I just tought I'd say hi and to ask you who this Weapon of mass 'Instruction' is.

I am your dad.

Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

But that's enough of a derail. I don't want to reinforce Weapon's delusion that this blog is about him.

Unfortunately, it is about me. When I am not around, you have the same four or five people scratching your back (one of them is your brother, and the other seems to be your coauthor).

I bring life to your boring blog.

You can thank me now.

Rev. BigDumbChimp said...

No cocksnack, you make it boring with your repeated drivel and moronic blabbering.

Weapon of Mass Instruction said...

And you provide the spice with your predictable ad hominems.

But should I expect anything else from a BigDumpChimp.

Bronze Dog said...

Yeah, focus on side ad homenims and just ignore the complete and total embarrassments we served you, mister "I don't believe in stuff we observe just about every day of our lives."

We ad hominem because it's a lot more fun than citing the same refutations over and over for someone who can't see anything beyond his paranoid delusions.

Why don't you go mumble against the cardboard cutouts in your padded cell, where you can't disrupt meaningful conversation?

Maybe you should take a break the ID rants like I've been trying to work on: Why don't you start by trying to debunk thermodynamics by arguing against the silliness of phlogistan? How about debunking modern medicine by making fun of homeopathy? After all, you've "debunked" biology by making fun of Polymorph other from the D&D Player's Handbook.

Clu said...

I just thought I'd let you know that my litle comment here earned me a comment from WoM'I'...

And it was my first comment too, I feel so special ;)

Bronze Dog said...

Yeah. I kind of find it funny that he shows up at a new reference of his name in a completely non-ID topic.

Doesn't he have anything better to do than waste space on my blog with his debunkings of naturalism by calling it sorcery?

Clu said...

You'd think so...

Akusai said...

Cocksnack finally put in an appearance at my blog, trolling my Storytime 2 post. It's even worse than normal. I'm probably going to ignore/ridicule him, as I tend to do and you all can have at it as much as you want.

Clu said...

Where did the 'cocksnack' nick come from? I've seen you use it before but I still havent found the origin (perhaps it evolved?)

Bronze Dog said...

Ryan started it. I don't use it personally, but I'm staying out of its way, since he doesn't bother paying attention to anything else we say about him.

It's just fewer logical arguments and citations for him to ignore so that he can go on pretending that debunking Harry Potter and ignoring the existence of about 25% of the US's electrical power (generated by nuclear power made possible by nuclear physics being taken over by "Darwinism") somehow means that we've been reduced to only ad hominems.

Rev. BigDumbChimp said...

Google cocksnack clu.

Regardless, he the master of ignoring evidence and logic and has earned complete and utter ridicule from his behavior here and at other blogs. He's a joke. A JOKE and that is it. Calling him such isn't an ad hominem attack because his repeated denial of the vast overwhelming evidence proves him to be a joke. Calling a spade a spade isn't an ad hominem, it's the truth. Pick an argument of his and there is a logical and factual rebuttal. His need to continually use the same oft refuted arguments provides us the material to use against him. This repeated spewing is grounds for the titles such as cocksnack, joke, and fool. Anyone who continues to use the same arguments that have been shot down with evidence and logic over and over is deserving of these terms and it's no long ad hominem to call him so.

It's not he as a person that is the incorrect part of his stance, it is his stance itself and his continued pigheadedness in the face of overwhelming evidence that makes his argument so ridiculous.

That is no ad hominem. If a fool professes a point to the edge of the cliff of stupidity, then he becomes one with his argument.

Calling him a fool for being a fool is granted.

Clu said...

That's the image I had of him, seeing the previous post when he called all insults ad hominem, no matter how just they might have been, instead of replying on the facts..

Rockstar Ryan said...

I just think he's an asshole.

janiebelle said...

As a high level member of the super secret double top secret triple X for your eyes only New World Order, I would like to state for the record (off the record, of course) that we are not about blowing shit up and making wars and all of that crap.

Our goal is quite simply to get everybody naked.

That is all.

This comment will self destruct in ten seconds....

Bronze Dog said...

The previous post is a screenshot of Janie's comment that was taken down by the IJOOOOOOO!!!!1111!minati. Sorry if it looks like the Loch Ness Monster.

Nes said...

Sorry if it looks like the Loch Ness Monster.

I was hoping I could find a clip on YouTube of the Futurama episode "Roswell That Ends Well" in which a conspiracy nut takes pictures that turn out like that. I have it on DVD, but my ATI All-In-Wonder's DVD playing program whatchamajigit won't let me record. Bah on them!

Realist said...

Either 1.read "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" by Dr. David Ray Griffin, or 2.kindly shut the fuck up because you have no idea just how impossible and ridiculous is the official conspiracy theory you are defending.

Bronze Dog said...

Yeah, it's sooooo impossible for some guys to steal some planes and ram them into a few buildings. Hushaboom, orbital R9 wave cannons, and micro nukes are so much more plausible.

Anyone want to bet that fantasist here doesn't even know anything about the currently accepted theory?

How much you want to bet he's going to bring up the melting steel canard that only twoofers subscribe to?

Bob said...

I'd like him to explain why he thinks the current administration is competent enough to pull off any conspiracy at all.

Ryan said...

Jeez d00d, just read this guy's book! You'll have all your answers!

Wait - can't you just provide a link to the evidence? That seems a lot easier than having to wade through some asshat's "theories" with no proof to back them up.

I could write a book called "Realist Eats Babies". Would that be evidence you do?

Bronze Dog said...

Doggerel #19, of course.

I'm also curious why he didn't link to an online source. You'd think that something like a conspiracy with millions of members so evil they can attack their own countrymen without anyone blowing the whistle, someone would think to post it online where we can all openly evaluate it.

So, what's in the book that separates it from all the other crankery out there?

Wonder if thermite/ate that falls perpendicular to gravity will be involved.

eric swan said...

My real name is Eric Swan, and my real email address is ehswan@yahoo.com. Concerning 9/11 I would be honored to be flamed by you all. Having a remarkable grasp of the obvious, (unlike you all),I have no doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. Grow up, the Bushies have no qualms about destroying millions of lives. All you have to do is look at what they have done to Iraq.

Bronze Dog said...

It's got nothing to do with what Bush is willing to do. It's what the laws of physics and administrative reality allow. Bush is not a sorcerer. Bush is not competent to pull off a million man conspiracy.

As for all that stuff about your real name: Who cares? Your identity cannot change the laws of physics. Being willing to give your real name or not doesn't render hushaboom any less of a contradiction, or make holographic planes any more practical.

It's still your job to prove that such an inside job is physically possible, and bad mouthing wingnuts doesn't accomplish anything.

Show me the science.